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[David <davidvargas1 AT mac.com>]

Excellent explanations...

On 12/24/2014 12:09 PM, Jeff Taylor wrote:
> Doing a quick check against the data from grep.geek, I find 286
> registered .ing domains that have web pages attached.  Of course nearly
> all of those will be redirected pages and not original content.
> 
> You asked in there was evidence that the TLD is causing conflict? We
> wouldn't be having this discussion if there had not been a conflict.  A
> number of tier-2 servers are failing testing and users have been getting
> unpredictable results because the root zone was trying to use data from
> both icann and opennic.  There is no easy way to co-exist, we simply
> have to use one or the other as the source for the TLD.  Even if we did
> merge the data from ICANN and opennic, how would you resolve a conflict
> if someone registers an icann domain that is already in use by an
> opennic member?
> 
> How do you propose we amicably resolve this conflict?  ICANN has stated
> publicly that they believe alternate roots like opennic are a threat to
> the health of the internet.  All they care about is how much money they
> make, and opennic does not have the funding to hurt ICANN's income. 
> They wouldn't even consider discussing the issue with us because they
> believe they control the internet.
> 
> Keep in mind that even if you happen to resolve all of the above, the
> original maintainer of the zone has already given it up.  The registrar
> page hasn't been active in several months.  You would need to find
> someone else willing to host the zone, create a new registrar page,
> write the code to merge the two zone files together, and spend time as
> needed to manually resolve the conflicting domains.
> 
> 
> On 12/23/2014 04:06 PM, David wrote:
>> OK my miss understanding,
>>
>> I do ask for more information in my following question:
>>
>>   When was the .ING tld was established is Opennic the first one in
>> holding .ing tld?
>>
>>    What is the volume of users using .ING tld?
>> Where is been Hosted?
>>
>> Is there enough evidence that .Ing tld is causing conflict with other
>> non opennic DNS servers?
>>
>> and finally
>> Have we use our resources in contacting The complainers about ing.tld to
>> solve the problems and complains amicable?
>>
>> My vote is to keep it and try to solve it amicable. Unless, the amount
>> of users, does not merit the time to keep the .ing tld. but will not
>> give it up too soon.
>>
>> Respectfully
>>
>>
>> On 12/24/2014 6:49 AM, Julian De Marchi wrote:
>>> On 12/24/14 08:15, David wrote:
>>>> We should stick to opennic should be following the to the letter their
>>>> own policy that was establish a long time ago. I smell a big rotten
>>>> rotten fish in trying to derail the opennic project.     We should
>>>> support
>>>> Our leaders and supporters of opennic. ICANN it is corporate
>>>> piranha, in
>>>> other words Government greed in neutralizing the net..
>>> There are no leaders within this project. The community drives the
>>> direction OpenNIC travels with a few of us "care" takers around to
>>> ensure it does not get derailed by any one person.
>>>
>>> Jeff is 100% not, nor, ever will try and derail the project.
>>>
>>> The problem is clear. Does OpenNIC keep or drop .ing TLD.
>>>
>>> This is our 7 day discussion period. After this OpenNIC will have a vote
>>> and then the community will decide what direction we travel in for this
>>> issue.
>>>
>>> To finish... Debate within OpenNIC is normal. But please keep it healthy
>>> and on topic. There is no need to ever through accusations around unless
>>> you can cite evidence to back up any claim.
>>>
>>> --julian
>>>
>>>
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