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[David <davidvargas1 AT mac.com>]

Tim

Thank You, I already voted, "Drop .ING." I hope we learn from our
mistakes. We could lose this "AMBUSH", but not the "WAR".

On 12/26/2014 9:05 PM, Tim Groeneveld wrote:
> It's definitely a war. Nothing has changed with our landscape. 
> Our game (a more Democratic ICANN) is the same as it always was. Now we 
> need to ensure we can go through with the reason that we are a group in the 
> first place, and at this point that sounds like getting something in place 
> so this does not happen again. 
> 
> To end with a Dutch saying, "ICANN sucks and Google is not much better. 
> There own search engine usage could have told them that ing was/is on 
> opennic."
> 
> Sorry about the short responses, I am camping in Queensland and swype hates 
> me. 
> Regards, Tim
> 
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> ---- On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 19:35:04 +1100 dwlnetnl AT gmail.com wrote ---- Hi 
> Tim, OpenNCI members,
> I don’t think it’s a war. As I see it. We working towards a goal, running 
> TLDs in a more open, democratic, way. When ICANN changed it’s policy some 
> of the terms of the game for OpenNIC has changed. The landscape has changed 
> (a bit).
> We can be calm and let it be, and see what will come. If the result on the 
> long term is to abandon OpenNIC because the landscape is changed? That’s 
> fine with me. I think we are a group of smart people. (given by the fact 
> that you consider yourself an OpenNIC member and know what ICANN is) Put 
> yourself to do great work, if that is OpenNIC or something else.
> To end with a Dutch saying “A cat in a corner makes strange jumps”. I don’t 
> think OpenNIC is in a corner.
> 
> Kind regards,Anner
> 
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> On 24 dec. 2014, at 07:59, Tim Groeneveld <tim AT timg.ws> wrote:
> I actually agree. Drop the domain. We have lost the war (this time) with 
> ICANN. Instead of fighting for this TLD, let's ensure we are prepared for 
> round two.
> 
> 
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> ---- On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 09:15:50 +1100 davidvargas1 AT mac.com wrote ---- We 
> should stick to opennic should be following the to the letter their
> 
> own policy that was establish a long time ago. I smell a big rotten
> 
> rotten fish in trying to derail the opennic project.     We should support
> 
> Our leaders and supporters of opennic. ICANN it is corporate piranha, in
> 
> other words Government greed in neutralizing the net..
> 
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> On 12/23/2014 11:45 PM, Jeff Taylor wrote:
> 
>> In case you forgot, this issue was already discussed on the list earlier
> 
>> this year, and the general consensus was that nobody had enough interest
> 
>> to put forth the effort of contacting the EFF or anyone else.  If we
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>> were going to fight for it, that would have been the time -- when ICANN
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>> first announced the possibility of using .ing.  At this point its too
> 
>> late, it's a done deal and any credibility we might have had towards a
> 
>> claim is gone through lack of action.
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>> But hey, if you want to hold me personally responsible for the loss of
> 
>> the zone, more power to ya.
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>> On 12/20/2014 01:15 PM, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
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>>> I really think someone should contact the EFF about this issue. I
> 
>>> don't personally care about my .ing domains as they're just redirects,
> 
>>> but if everyone caves in like Jeff is, they're eventually gonna go
> 
>>> after Julian, and if Julian doesn't fight back, OpenNIC will be gone.
> 
>>> -- -Dan Q
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