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- From: Tim Groeneveld <tim AT timg.ws>
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- Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING
- Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 00:05:37 +1100
It's definitely a war. Nothing has changed with our landscape.
Our game (a more Democratic ICANN) is the same as it always was. Now we need to ensure we can go through with the reason that we are a group in the first place, and at this point that sounds like getting something in place so this does not happen again.
To end with a Dutch saying, "ICANN sucks and Google is not much better. There own search engine usage could have told them that ing was/is on opennic."
To end with a Dutch saying, "ICANN sucks and Google is not much better. There own search engine usage could have told them that ing was/is on opennic."
Sorry about the short responses, I am camping in Queensland and swype hates me.
Regards,
Tim
---- On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 19:35:04 +1100 dwlnetnl AT gmail.com wrote ----
---- On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 19:35:04 +1100 dwlnetnl AT gmail.com wrote ----
Hi Tim, OpenNCI members,I don’t think it’s a war. As I see it. We working towards a goal, running TLDs in a more open, democratic, way. When ICANN changed it’s policy some of the terms of the game for OpenNIC has changed. The landscape has changed (a bit).We can be calm and let it be, and see what will come. If the result on the long term is to abandon OpenNIC because the landscape is changed? That’s fine with me. I think we are a group of smart people. (given by the fact that you consider yourself an OpenNIC member and know what ICANN is) Put yourself to do great work, if that is OpenNIC or something else.To end with a Dutch saying “A cat in a corner makes strange jumps”. I don’t think OpenNIC is in a corner.Kind regards,AnnerOn 24 dec. 2014, at 07:59, Tim Groeneveld <tim AT timg.ws> wrote:I actually agree. Drop the domain. We have lost the war (this time) with ICANN. Instead of fighting for this TLD, let's ensure we are prepared for round two.
---- On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 09:15:50 +1100 davidvargas1 AT mac.com wrote ----We should stick to opennic should be following the to the letter their
own policy that was establish a long time ago. I smell a big rotten
rotten fish in trying to derail the opennic project. We should support
Our leaders and supporters of opennic. ICANN it is corporate piranha, in
other words Government greed in neutralizing the net..
On 12/23/2014 11:45 PM, Jeff Taylor wrote:
> In case you forgot, this issue was already discussed on the list earlier
> this year, and the general consensus was that nobody had enough interest
> to put forth the effort of contacting the EFF or anyone else. If we
> were going to fight for it, that would have been the time -- when ICANN
> first announced the possibility of using .ing. At this point its too
> late, it's a done deal and any credibility we might have had towards a
> claim is gone through lack of action.
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> But hey, if you want to hold me personally responsible for the loss of
> the zone, more power to ya.
>
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> On 12/20/2014 01:15 PM, Daniel Quintiliani wrote:
>> I really think someone should contact the EFF about this issue. I
>> don't personally care about my .ing domains as they're just redirects,
>> but if everyone caves in like Jeff is, they're eventually gonna go
>> after Julian, and if Julian doesn't fight back, OpenNIC will be gone.
>> -- -Dan Q
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- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, (continued)
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Allen Schultz, 12/24/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Brian Koontz, 12/24/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Tim Groeneveld, 12/24/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, BlockAid DNS, 12/25/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Brian Koontz, 12/25/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Alex Nordlund, 12/25/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, David, 12/24/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, David, 12/24/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Anner van Hardenbroek, 12/26/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Tim Groeneveld, 12/26/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, David, 12/26/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Brian Koontz, 12/23/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Jeff Taylor, 12/23/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Jeff Taylor, 12/23/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Jeff Taylor, 12/23/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Richard Lyons, 12/30/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Administrador, 12/30/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Calum McAlinden, 12/30/2014
- Re: [opennic-discuss] Call for vote to drop ING, Administrador, 12/30/2014
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