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Excellent points.

To me the whole idea of monetising a community
project just does not sound right. Jonah's point
that DNS is a separate service is technically
correct, but doesn't seem to jibe with social
reality. In any case, another project for domain
registration is not a bad idea in principle.

That said, I still think that the whole idea
of monetising anything regarding OpenDNS and
our alternate domains is somewhat childish.
Forgive me for putting it that way, but I really
can't think of any other way of putting it.
There is not going to be a flow of money here.
I would point out that a little romp through
grep.geek brings up a pitiful amount of actual
content. If you don't believe me, just start
clicking on links and see how many complete.
I realize that there is more to DNS than web
content, but when you see that most search
content is actually not there, and perhaps
never was, then one starts to wonder.

Regards,
        Ole


On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 11:47:15 +0100
Hunter 9999 <mail AT hunter-9999.de> wrote:

> As also said before, we name ourself "OpenNIC" as we we
> not only provide DNS access and consuming, but also the
> ability to register Domains. This all falls under the
> purpose of OpenNIC. Else we could name our self like
> OpenDNS (if it would be unused), but we don't. So the
> usage of OpenNIC includes not only the consuming of the
> DNS data, bit also the registration. And our purpose is
> clearly to be at "No Cost (Gratis)" so is clearly also
> includes the registration.
> 
> If you want to monetize registrations do it under another
> project, with another name. Maybe we will peer with that
> project, but it would be clear, that its another project.
> As we also peer with new nations, that also has other
> policies to register domains.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Am 9. Dezember 2016 21:09:03 MEZ schrieb Jonah Aragon
> <jonaharagon AT gmail.com>:
> >I think we've all established the homepage needs
> >updating.... That being
> >said you're definitely right, you can't charge for
> >access to public T2 servers, and not for any listed on
> >the official servers page.
> >
> >At a technical level you COULD charge for DNS access,
> >but you wouldn't be
> >listed on the servers page and the practice would be
> >frowned upon.
> >
> >I think we're taking this in a whole different direction
> >though, nobody wants to charge for DNS access, only for
> >domain names on the network. Completely different.
> >
> >Jonah
> >
> >On Dec 9, 2016 1:58 PM, "Maiyannah Bishop"
> ><maiyannah.bishop AT postactiv.com>
> >wrote:
> >  
> >>
> >> On 2016-12-09 06:23, Amunak wrote:
> >>
> >> Noone is forcing you to provide a T2 server. And I
> >> think noone even  
> >says  
> >> it has to be free (correct me if I'm wrong, it's been
> >> a while since I  
> >read  
> >> the OpenNIC guideliness). I believe that if you want
> >> to provide a  
> >paid T2  
> >> server (with some kind of whitelisting for paying
> >> users) nothing is stopping you. And by the nature of
> >> DNS noone even really *can* stop  
> >you.  
> >> At worst you would not be allowed to be listed among
> >> the "official"  
> >OpenNIC  
> >> T2 servers. But that doesn't prevent you from
> >> providing such a  
> >service. And  
> >> to be fair I think that it's totally fair to charge
> >> for such service  
> >- you  
> >> may have a hard time getting customers (users),
> >> especially if you  
> >didn't  
> >> offer anything extra, but if you were reliable and had
> >> perhaps some  
> >extra  
> >> services it may be interesting.
> >>
> >>
> >> Am I the only one that's read the home page recently?
> >>
> >> "No Cost (Gratis)
> >>
> >> OpenNIC is a non profit organisation and does not
> >> charge money for  
> >access  
> >> to it’s DNS services including the proposal/request of
> >> new TLDs. It’s  
> >free  
> >> to use and the servers are run by volunteers, so
> >> there’s no financial pressure to corrupt the OpenNIC
> >> system. You too could be one of the volunteers!
> >>
> >> -mb
> >>