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  • From: Amunak <amunak AT>
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  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] planets TLDs
  • Date: Wed, 27 Dec 2017 12:24:18 +0100

Another big thing to consider is scalability. Adding TLDs costs quite a bit in manhours, whereas registering domains into existing TLDs is basically free. For TLDs you need someone to maintain them, run the T1 server, make sure that it works and stays updated, that its domain registration system is working, etc. The more TLDs we operate (and the less people there are operating them) the more it costs to maintain them, the more likely issues are to appear "out of the blue" and the less likely they are to be fixed in a timely manner. Not to mention stuff like maintaining a certificate authority, making sure DNSSEC works and such. We don't have those things yet, but if there are 100 TLDs to add these on to we'll never have feature parity on all TLDs.

Unless we make the process of creating and maintaining a TLD 100% automatic, there's always the risk of having unmaintained and/or abandoned TLDs. And that's not good.

All this would perhaps be acceptable if we had millions of pretty TLDs already taken in our other more "generic" TLDs. Or if those had some unreasonable charters not suitable for some people with new TLDs solving that. But creating new, highly specific TLDs is, in my opinion, a waste of resources.

At most I'd consider peering agreements with such TLD groups if they operated successfully for a year or several, but as it stands I don't really see any reason for adding any more TLDs except for some very special circumstances. Like, I could see a .crypto, considering that it could help us spread awareness by "riding the fad". Or perhaps an internal TLD for use with OpenNic's websites and infrastructure, one reserved just for that (and, eventually say, OpenNic CA websites and whatnot). But that's it, I don't see any positives of adding TLDs like this.


On 23.12.2017 3:12, Niles Rogoff wrote:

The biggest reason to limit them is that ICANN might create that tld and we would be in the .free situation all over again.

On 12/22/2017 06:09 PM, Jonah Aragon wrote:
I’m in strong favor of increasing the amount of TLDs we operate, there’s no
reason to limit them, it’s an arbitrary restriction some people enjoy
placing on our network. I am definitely opposed to people just coming out
of the blue and thinking they can just get a TLD however, because it
actually requires some effort and long-term planning—TLDs are supposed to
last forever, and frankly with the latest submissions I’ve seen, I don’t
have strong faith in these operators to stick around if/when they get

That being said, I’d be happy to approve more TLDs, I just want some kind
of proof that the operators doing these proposals will actually be able to


On Fri, Dec 22, 2017 at 8:02 PM Daniel Quintiliani <danq AT> wrote:

Indeed, everyone and their brother wants a TLD now. I mean it's a good
thing we have increased interest in OpenNIC, but before proposing TLDs we
need the infrastructure and commitment per our recent votes on policy

It sounds like this person wants multiple TLDs, but perhaps instead of
voting one-by-one he should list the remaining TLD ideas he has into a
single discussion thread, and have a single voting thread where we vote on
each TLD. Anyone agree that's a better idea?


-Dan Q

On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 17:54:51 -0800, <vv AT> wrote:

To me there is no practical logic to creating any
more TLDs. People like to create them, and the pleasure
they get from that seems to be what it's about. I do
support that, but we certainly don't need any more
TLDs. There are plenty of domains still available
on the TLDs we have and in reality they can be used for
anything you want. To me the bottom line is that we have
yet to get anything to take off and be viable as an
alternative to the ICANN net. It is only our DNS which
is a great success.

~ Ole

On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:10:22 +0000
Wyndcomm Enterprises <dima22443 AT> wrote:

Could you tell me please if it will be logicaly to create
planets’ TLDs ? Kind regards,
Shchurov Dmitrii
Tel: +79533487679
Skype: scdimaspb
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