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  • From: Theo Bleier <me AT theos.space>
  • To: discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] A forum
  • Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 14:15:11 -0500

So, the forum is going to be sort of a compliment to the ML at this time?


On Dec 5, 2016, 3:25 AM -0500, vv AT cgs.pw, wrote:

Nice to see you here Chip.

Good points about the use of the forum.

I was there when we were first discussing it,
and my feeling at the time was that there
was an interest in having more in-depth
discussion about more abstract subjects,
such as why we might be doing this stuff
in the first place. There was someone else
there at the time who had similar interests.
In any case, it is not really possible to
have a longer philosophical discussion on
either IRC or a mailing list, especially
over a long period of time (like months,
for example).

The idea of keeping the forum at arm's length
appeals to me because I have an interest in
the more abstract and philosophical issues
around OpenNIC. At the time that it was started
there was an extreme lack of interest so
I stopped contributing - something that I did
on a daily basis just to keep it alive. We do
need an actual effort on the part of members
in order to keep it buoyant.

Regards,
Ole Juul

On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 23:47:50 -0700
Chip Wasson <chip AT wasson.io> wrote:

Hey all,

First off, talk.geek (also available at talkdotgeek.com)
is not official so it shouldn't have a link from the
project website.

The original aim of talk.geek did require some
fragmentation of discussion but not in a negative
fashion. The thought was to provide a platform for
discussion and collaboration on highly focused or
long(er) term topics/projects that may span days or weeks
without polluting the mailing list, keeping it free for
more time-sensitive updates and truly general interest
discussion. I doubt everyone on the mailing list cares to
have discussion about the version-to-version requirements
of digbot, the looking glass and nitty gritty discussion
about traffic filtering filling up their inbox.

Meanwhile, proposals for new TLDs and the project itself
do belong in a mailing list that every involved member of
the project receives without having to actively look for
the update. PUSH-ing the important information to
everyone as a previous poster put it.

In the original discussion almost a year ago, talk.geek
was a different type of discussion platform rather than a
replacement of the mailing list. A forum could provide a
single place for someone interested or involved in the
OpenNIC project to see focused discussion about
techniques and projects going on within the community, as
well as take part in discussion without having to feel
like the entire community would be "forced" to read their
reply.

A forum does require a certain critical mass of
traffic/topics/projects which was missing when talk.geek
first started. The couple quick projects at the time just
continued in dedicated IRC channels.

The site is obviously still an experiment, If anyone
wants to make changes to talk.geek let me know. I'm open
to giving changes to the site a shot, just give me a
shout.

Spam was a bit of an issue in March so currently in order
to register on talk.geek you need the secret word
"spamsucks".

I'll make sure to be around on IRC the next couple days.

-Chip
achip on IRC

On Dec 4, 2016, at 4:24 PM, Jonah Aragon
<jonaharagon AT gmail.com> wrote:

I don't think talk.geek is actually the "official"
forum for OpenNIC so nothing needs to be added, no use
in needlessly fragmenting the userbase between the
forum and the ML. Unless we approve the forum and shut
down the ML don't add anything.

That said, if you could remove the .chan vote from the
homepage that would clear up some confusion I've been
seeing from new users (unrelated topic).

Jonah

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 5:17 PM Brian Koontz
<brian AT opennicproject.org> wrote: Are you talking
about opennicproject.org? I can add it if you tell me
what you want.

--Brian

On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 2:44 PM, dc0 <dc0 AT riseup.net
wrote:
That's great but shouldn't it be advertised on the
OpenNIC website so more people know about it? The
forum should probably have another domain that is
assessable to those that aren't using OpenNIC dns.


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