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I agree with what you say. We really should
remain international. And it is indeed obvious
when someone is spoiling a ballot - seeing
it otherwise appears demonstrative to me.

My opinion is that there are some people here
with a belligerent attitude towards "foreign"
languages. Yes, English is a standard on the
internet, but we are living in a global world
now. In any case even a decent understanding
of English includes a lot of French, German,
Latin, and other influences. One cannot claim
ignorance of those if one is an English speaker.
A little linguistic depth, not to mention
tolerance, is demanded in this day and age.
Fighting against that strikes me as being narrow
minded - if not plain rude. I think that OpenNIC
members would do well to stay away from such
redneck attitudes if possible. But I also think
that we need not ensconce such rules in our
constitution. 

Regards,
        Ole


On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 21:33:45 -0500
kevin <krattai AT gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, no.  Don't think that's a really good assertion on
> an international collaboration to make English some
> formal language of openNIC.  I really don't mind if
> conversations go on on this list in any language one so
> chooses.  Not exactly sure why that is so important.  If
> I don't understand, then either I don't need to, or maybe
> I should take some time to learn another language.
> 
> Anyhow, the guys were obviously spoiling their ballots.
> 
> Also, regarding the idea of not allowing "free form"
> ballots.  As a voter, it is completely up to a voter to
> spoil a ballot.  That is certainly one of the "rights"
> the democratic systems are supposed to uphold. How they
> spoil the ballot is up to them, not a check box that says
> "spoil".
> 
> I think there's way too much nudging of the "decomocracy"
> of openNIC to corral members to a very, very small box.
> 
> Kevin
> 
> On Tue, 2018-08-07 at 14:50 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > A number of individuals are voting on proposals in
> > other languages (Austrian? German?). Not everyone can
> > speak these languages, and I've never seen languages
> > other than English spoken on the list. I don't know how
> > to process these votes, though I'm hoping someone else
> > can before time runs out (or until someone translates
> > them for Jonah and I). But in the future, unless the
> > demographics in this shift into speakers of another
> > language, who can reverse saide policy, we should
> > require voting in English, with votes in other
> > languages considered invalid.
> > 
> > What do you think?
> > 
> > --
> > 
> > -Dan Q
> > 
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