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Re: [opennic-discuss] [PROPOSAL] Require voting in English


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  • From: "Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com>
  • To: "discuss" <discuss AT lists.opennicproject.org>
  • Subject: Re: [opennic-discuss] [PROPOSAL] Require voting in English
  • Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2018 15:03:33 -0400 (EDT)

It's rather rude to lump several large countries in with a small yet still
diverse group of people in the American South, don't you think?

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-Dan Q


On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 01:08:59 -0700, <vv AT cgs.pw> wrote:

> I agree with what you say. We really should
> remain international. And it is indeed obvious
> when someone is spoiling a ballot - seeing
> it otherwise appears demonstrative to me.
>
> My opinion is that there are some people here
> with a belligerent attitude towards "foreign"
> languages. Yes, English is a standard on the
> internet, but we are living in a global world
> now. In any case even a decent understanding
> of English includes a lot of French, German,
> Latin, and other influences. One cannot claim
> ignorance of those if one is an English speaker.
> A little linguistic depth, not to mention
> tolerance, is demanded in this day and age.
> Fighting against that strikes me as being narrow
> minded - if not plain rude. I think that OpenNIC
> members would do well to stay away from such
> redneck attitudes if possible. But I also think
> that we need not ensconce such rules in our
> constitution.
>
> Regards,
> Ole
>
>
> On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 21:33:45 -0500
> kevin <krattai AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, no.  Don't think that's a really good assertion on
> > an international collaboration to make English some
> > formal language of openNIC.  I really don't mind if
> > conversations go on on this list in any language one so
> > chooses.  Not exactly sure why that is so important.  If
> > I don't understand, then either I don't need to, or maybe
> > I should take some time to learn another language.
> >
> > Anyhow, the guys were obviously spoiling their ballots.
> >
> > Also, regarding the idea of not allowing "free form"
> > ballots.  As a voter, it is completely up to a voter to
> > spoil a ballot.  That is certainly one of the "rights"
> > the democratic systems are supposed to uphold. How they
> > spoil the ballot is up to them, not a check box that says
> > "spoil".
> >
> > I think there's way too much nudging of the "decomocracy"
> > of openNIC to corral members to a very, very small box.
> >
> > Kevin
> >
> > On Tue, 2018-08-07 at 14:50 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani
> > wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > A number of individuals are voting on proposals in
> > > other languages (Austrian? German?). Not everyone can
> > > speak these languages, and I've never seen languages
> > > other than English spoken on the list. I don't know how
> > > to process these votes, though I'm hoping someone else
> > > can before time runs out (or until someone translates
> > > them for Jonah and I). But in the future, unless the
> > > demographics in this shift into speakers of another
> > > language, who can reverse saide policy, we should
> > > require voting in English, with votes in other
> > > languages considered invalid.
> > >
> > > What do you think?
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > -Dan Q
> > >
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