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On Wed, 08 Aug 2018 15:03:33 -0400 (EDT)
"Daniel Quintiliani" <danq AT runbox.com> wrote:

> It's rather rude to lump several large countries in with
> a small yet still diverse group of people in the American
> South, don't you think?

I suppose it could be, but have no idea about
the context in which you make that statement,
nor what you're getting at. :)

In any case, I personally enjoy the variety of
cultures on the internet as well as in my own
country, and find it easy enough to deal with
other languages up to a point. Certainly, giving
a lot of leeway for people who's first language
is not English is important.

As for voting, others have already explained
how that's not a language problem.

~ Ole



> 
> --
> 
> -Dan Q
> 
> 
> On Wed, 8 Aug 2018 01:08:59 -0700, <vv AT cgs.pw> wrote:
> 
> > I agree with what you say. We really should
> > remain international. And it is indeed obvious
> > when someone is spoiling a ballot - seeing
> > it otherwise appears demonstrative to me.
> > 
> > My opinion is that there are some people here
> > with a belligerent attitude towards "foreign"
> > languages. Yes, English is a standard on the
> > internet, but we are living in a global world
> > now. In any case even a decent understanding
> > of English includes a lot of French, German,
> > Latin, and other influences. One cannot claim
> > ignorance of those if one is an English speaker.
> > A little linguistic depth, not to mention
> > tolerance, is demanded in this day and age.
> > Fighting against that strikes me as being narrow
> > minded - if not plain rude. I think that OpenNIC
> > members would do well to stay away from such
> > redneck attitudes if possible. But I also think
> > that we need not ensconce such rules in our
> > constitution. 
> > 
> > Regards,
> >         Ole
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, 07 Aug 2018 21:33:45 -0500
> > kevin <krattai AT gmail.com> wrote:
> >   
> > > Yeah, no.  Don't think that's a really good assertion
> > > on an international collaboration to make English some
> > > formal language of openNIC.  I really don't mind if
> > > conversations go on on this list in any language one
> > > so chooses.  Not exactly sure why that is so
> > > important.  If I don't understand, then either I
> > > don't need to, or maybe I should take some time to
> > > learn another language.
> > > 
> > > Anyhow, the guys were obviously spoiling their
> > > ballots.
> > > 
> > > Also, regarding the idea of not allowing "free form"
> > > ballots.  As a voter, it is completely up to a voter
> > > to spoil a ballot.  That is certainly one of the
> > > "rights" the democratic systems are supposed to
> > > uphold. How they spoil the ballot is up to them, not
> > > a check box that says "spoil".
> > > 
> > > I think there's way too much nudging of the
> > > "decomocracy" of openNIC to corral members to a very,
> > > very small box.
> > > 
> > > Kevin
> > > 
> > > On Tue, 2018-08-07 at 14:50 -0400, Daniel Quintiliani
> > > wrote:  
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > A number of individuals are voting on proposals in
> > > > other languages (Austrian? German?). Not everyone
> > > > can speak these languages, and I've never seen
> > > > languages other than English spoken on the list. I
> > > > don't know how to process these votes, though I'm
> > > > hoping someone else can before time runs out (or
> > > > until someone translates them for Jonah and I). But
> > > > in the future, unless the demographics in this
> > > > shift into speakers of another language, who can
> > > > reverse saide policy, we should require voting in
> > > > English, with votes in other languages considered
> > > > invalid.
> > > > 
> > > > What do you think?
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > > 
> > > > -Dan Q
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