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[Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org>]

Do you really not have it? It was sent 2017-09-18 at 0918 UTC. 

Bit concerning if the mailing list is losing messages…

On 19 September 2017 15:50:20 BST, Jon Hebb <somebodyrocks AT gmail.com> wrote:
>I tried looking through the thread to find it but couldn't ...who knows
>where it went. I did see the updated version that was just sent though.
>
>On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>
>wrote:
>
>> He sent the charter in a reply to this thread, but perhaps a new
>thread
>> should be started for discussion to make it more clear.
>>
>> Of note, the charter isn't actually listed on any of the sites he
>linked
>> last time I checked, so the ML is the only place to find it.
>>
>> Jonah
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2017 9:45 AM, "Jon Hebb" <somebodyrocks AT gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think there would really need to be a proper proposal with
>attached
>>> charter before the discussion period is even considered "open."
>>>
>>> Asking someone to change to a non-OpenNIC DNS to view your charter
>is not
>>> by any means the appropriate way to do things, in my opinion.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org>
>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Allow a period of discussion about the TLD then call a vote. I know
>I
>>>> for one haven't had a chance to look at your proposal properly yet
>and I'll
>>>> post my comments when I do.
>>>>
>>>> albino
>>>>
>>>> On 19 September 2017 15:21:05 BST, "Dmitry S. Nikolaev"
><dn AT mega-net.ru>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >Hi.
>>>> >
>>>> >So what is next ?
>>>> >
>>>> >With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev
>>>> >
>>>> >Moscow, Russia
>>>> >phone: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 6003]
>>>> >fax: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 7777]
>>>> >www: http://www.mega-net.ru
>>>> >mail: dnikolaev AT mega-net.ru
>>>> >SIP URI: dnikolaev AT sip.mega-net.ru || dn AT sip.mega-net.ru
>>>> >
>>>> >On 18.09.2017 12:18, Dmitry S. Nikolaev wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *.RUS TLD **Charter*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *General Description*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dot RUS is the TLD (Top Level Domain) custom made for Russian
>people,
>>>> >> but still available to everyone.
>>>> >> Dot RUS is targeted to those who may want a domain with the
>>>> >> association with Russia and/or an free alternate to .ru domains.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Registration*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Registrations is available to everyone and completely free.
>>>> >> You can register any domain name that you want, but you need to
>>>> >> consider these rules:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - registration is avail on http://register.rus/ and totally
>>>> >automated;
>>>> >> - registration of domain names is carried out for the purpose of
>>>> >their
>>>> >> further use for addressing the User's resources in the Internet.
>Just
>>>> >> reserve domain name not allowed;
>>>> >> - domain name must not use words that are contrary to the public
>>>> >> interest, the principles of humanity and morality (in
>particular,
>>>> >> words of obscene content, appeals of an inhumane nature,
>insulting
>>>> >> human dignity or religious feelings and so on);
>>>> >> - domain WWW pages must not include incitement to violence,
>drugs,
>>>> >> terrorism and other illegal activities condemned by the world
>>>> >community;
>>>> >> - domain cybersquatting not allowed;
>>>> >> - domain usage for spam email delivery, malware distribution and
>>>> >> cracking are not allowed;
>>>> >> - domain name must not  be more than 32 symbols length;
>>>> >> - domain name will be valid 6 months after register and will be
>free
>>>> >> to use after one week after that, if the domain holder will not
>renew
>>>> >> registration at domain register system;
>>>> >> - for now there no limits on how many domain names can one
>person
>>>> >> register, but if you try to register to much names .RUS
>>>> >administration
>>>> >> can suspend your possibility to register new domain;
>>>> >> - some domain names can be or already reserved for tech and
>>>> >government
>>>> >> purposes;
>>>> >> - the .RUS registry is not a domain police force and meaningful
>abuse
>>>> >> enforcement will be reliant on members reporting. All abusive
>>>> >behavior
>>>> >> should be immediately reported to abuse.rus so administration
>can
>>>> >take
>>>> >> action;
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Termination / Revocation*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The registrar has the right to suspend the delegation of the
>domain
>>>> >> immediately without sending a request to the domain holder if
>domain
>>>> >> holder violates registration rules.
>>>> >> Domains can also be terminated via a member vote. Membership is
>>>> >> granted to any domain holder, 1 vote per member regardless of
>the
>>>> >> amount registrations they hold.
>>>> >> Domains may also be revoked by the .RUS administration if the
>OpenNIC
>>>> >> membership at large moves to revoke a registration. We do not
>foresee
>>>> >> a circumstance where OpenNIC as a whole will be required to vote
>on
>>>> >> the revocation of a .RUS domain, but if the need arises we will
>>>> >comply
>>>> >> with any such vote.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Disputes*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Since commercial interests can be involved, trademarks will be
>>>> >> honoured.  As a general rule, a domain may only be disputed by
>the
>>>> >> holder of a trademark registered before the domain in question
>was
>>>> >> registered. Trademark holders should speak to .RUS
>administration if
>>>> >> they wish to dispute a domain. We can revoke or transfer
>>>> >registrations
>>>> >> if ordered by a legitimate court of law, as a courtesy to that
>>>> >> country, as applicable to OpenNIC’s dispute policy.
>>>> >> The domain holder will be contacted and given a chance to
>respond. In
>>>> >> the event the domain holder does not make an initial response
>within
>>>> >> 14 days, the domain may be released or, if in the opinion of the
>.rus
>>>> >> TLD team the dispute is not clear-cut, the matter will be
>referred to
>>>> >> a vote by the Opennic membership.
>>>> >> The dispute policy is intended to be a democratic balance
>between the
>>>> >> needs of a commercial registrant and the rights of a domain
>holder.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Amendments and Misc. Policies*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Amendments to this charter may be added by a vote of .RUS domain
>>>> >> holders. Additionally, the .RUS administration is permitted to
>>>> >provide
>>>> >> a binding user agreement for registrations at tld.rus that may
>>>> >include
>>>> >> policies outside the scope of this charter.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Anonymity*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In recognition of the special nature of the community and
>demographic
>>>> >> this organization is chartering a domain for, this organization
>will
>>>> >> allow all individuals to register and vote without proof of
>identity
>>>> >> or a real name. The sole criteria for to be considered a voting
>>>> >member
>>>> >> of the organization will be an email address with one or more
>>>> >> registered, non-revoked domains, belonging to a singular person.
>>>> >> Should blatant abuse of said anonymity be discovered, the
>evidence of
>>>> >> this activity may be used to propose the expulsion of the
>offender or
>>>> >> offenders. The individual or individuals accused of said abuse
>will
>>>> >> not be eligible voters on this proposal. Should such a proposal
>pass,
>>>> >> the domains of all offending individuals will be revoked and
>become
>>>> >> available for registration, and the individuals will be
>ineligible to
>>>> >> vote on further proposals. The offenders may not have their
>>>> >> eligibility to vote or register a domain reinstated. Abuse
>includes
>>>> >> “sock-puppeting”, Sybil attacks, and other similar methods of
>social
>>>> >> subversion.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Whois service*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> .RUS provide whois service. Personal information is limited and
>not
>>>> >> printed by default. You can change this in your profile section
>in
>>>> >the
>>>> >> domain register system avail at http://register.rus/
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Amendment*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Provided the proposal in question does not bring this document
>in
>>>> >> conflict with OpenNIC Policy, this document may be edited or
>amended
>>>> >> by a proposal should the proposal to do so pass.
>>>> >> This document can be supplemented and up-to-date version will be
>>>> >> always available on http://www.rus/ page.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Moscow, Russia
>>>> >> phone: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 6003]
>>>> >> fax: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 7777]
>>>> >> www: http://www.mega-net.ru
>>>> >> mail: dnikolaev AT mega-net.ru
>>>> >> SIP URI: dnikolaev AT sip.mega-net.ru || dn AT sip.mega-net.ru
>>>> >> On 18.09.2017 10:13, Dmitry S. Nikolaev wrote:
>>>> >>> No reasons ofc.
>>>> >>> I just dont understand what you asked for.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Now I`am understand that you are talking about one of the
>options of
>>>> >the
>>>> >>> "Proposing and Creating new TLDs through OpenNIC" - charter.
>>>> >>> And as I said in the  previous letter I`am sorry for my
>>>> >misunderstanding
>>>> >>> because was focused on tech things to be done.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Moscow, Russia
>>>> >>> phone: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 6003]
>>>> >>> fax: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 7777]
>>>> >>> www: http://www.mega-net.ru
>>>> >>> mail: dnikolaev AT mega-net.ru
>>>> >>> SIP URI: dnikolaev AT sip.mega-net.ru || dn AT sip.mega-net.ru
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 18.09.2017 07:01, vv AT cgs.pw wrote:
>>>> >>>> Is there some reason you don't want to make
>>>> >>>> this convenient?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Cheers,
>>>> >>>>        Ole
>>>> >>>
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>>> Jon Hebb
>>>
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