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[Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>]

Gotta have a whitelisting filter for this list at least. The OpenNIC list doesn't handle DMARC or SPF very well so I'm sure most if not all messages from well configured mailservers get marked as spam. At least judging by all the autoresponses I get from your inbox admins when I send messages here about failed DMARC, that's definitely the case.

Jonah

On Sep 19, 2017 10:03 AM, "Jon Hebb" <jonhebb AT hebbnetworks.com> wrote:

I'm sure it's not to the fault of the mailing list. There are definitely a handful of m/l messages that get filtered/sent to spam by gmail on a regular basis. Very easily could have been the issue. I try to unmark them when I catch them. The same thing happens to most of my daily cron notifications lol

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 10:52 AM, Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org> wrote:

Do you really not have it? It was sent 2017-09-18 at 0918 UTC.

Bit concerning if the mailing list is losing messages…

On 19 September 2017 15:50:20 BST, Jon Hebb <somebodyrocks AT gmail.com> wrote:
>I tried looking through the thread to find it but couldn't ...who knows
>where it went. I did see the updated version that was just sent though.
>
>On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 10:47 AM, Jonah Aragon <jonah AT triplebit.net>
>wrote:
>
>> He sent the charter in a reply to this thread, but perhaps a new
>thread
>> should be started for discussion to make it more clear.
>>
>> Of note, the charter isn't actually listed on any of the sites he
>linked
>> last time I checked, so the ML is the only place to find it.
>>
>> Jonah
>>
>> On Sep 19, 2017 9:45 AM, "Jon Hebb" <somebodyrocks AT gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think there would really need to be a proper proposal with
>attached
>>> charter before the discussion period is even considered "open."
>>>
>>> Asking someone to change to a non-OpenNIC DNS to view your charter
>is not
>>> by any means the appropriate way to do things, in my opinion.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 10:36 AM, Al Beano <albino AT autistici.org>
>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Allow a period of discussion about the TLD then call a vote. I know
>I
>>>> for one haven't had a chance to look at your proposal properly yet
>and I'll
>>>> post my comments when I do.
>>>>
>>>> albino
>>>>
>>>> On 19 September 2017 15:21:05 BST, "Dmitry S. Nikolaev"
><dn AT mega-net.ru>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >Hi.
>>>> >
>>>> >So what is next ?
>>>> >
>>>> >With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev
>>>> >
>>>> >Moscow, Russia
>>>> >phone: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 6003]
>>>> >fax: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 7777]
>>>> >www: http://www.mega-net.ru
>>>> >mail: dnikolaev AT mega-net.ru
>>>> >SIP URI: dnikolaev AT sip.mega-net.ru || dn AT sip.mega-net.ru
>>>> >
>>>> >On 18.09.2017 12:18, Dmitry S. Nikolaev wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *.RUS TLD **Charter*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *General Description*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Dot RUS is the TLD (Top Level Domain) custom made for Russian
>people,
>>>> >> but still available to everyone.
>>>> >> Dot RUS is targeted to those who may want a domain with the
>>>> >> association with Russia and/or an free alternate to .ru domains.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Registration*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Registrations is available to everyone and completely free.
>>>> >> You can register any domain name that you want, but you need to
>>>> >> consider these rules:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> - registration is avail on http://register.rus/ and totally
>>>> >automated;
>>>> >> - registration of domain names is carried out for the purpose of
>>>> >their
>>>> >> further use for addressing the User's resources in the Internet.
>Just
>>>> >> reserve domain name not allowed;
>>>> >> - domain name must not use words that are contrary to the public
>>>> >> interest, the principles of humanity and morality (in
>particular,
>>>> >> words of obscene content, appeals of an inhumane nature,
>insulting
>>>> >> human dignity or religious feelings and so on);
>>>> >> - domain WWW pages must not include incitement to violence,
>drugs,
>>>> >> terrorism and other illegal activities condemned by the world
>>>> >community;
>>>> >> - domain cybersquatting not allowed;
>>>> >> - domain usage for spam email delivery, malware distribution and
>>>> >> cracking are not allowed;
>>>> >> - domain name must not  be more than 32 symbols length;
>>>> >> - domain name will be valid 6 months after register and will be
>free
>>>> >> to use after one week after that, if the domain holder will not
>renew
>>>> >> registration at domain register system;
>>>> >> - for now there no limits on how many domain names can one
>person
>>>> >> register, but if you try to register to much names .RUS
>>>> >administration
>>>> >> can suspend your possibility to register new domain;
>>>> >> - some domain names can be or already reserved for tech and
>>>> >government
>>>> >> purposes;
>>>> >> - the .RUS registry is not a domain police force and meaningful
>abuse
>>>> >> enforcement will be reliant on members reporting. All abusive
>>>> >behavior
>>>> >> should be immediately reported to abuse.rus so administration
>can
>>>> >take
>>>> >> action;
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Termination / Revocation*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The registrar has the right to suspend the delegation of the
>domain
>>>> >> immediately without sending a request to the domain holder if
>domain
>>>> >> holder violates registration rules.
>>>> >> Domains can also be terminated via a member vote. Membership is
>>>> >> granted to any domain holder, 1 vote per member regardless of
>the
>>>> >> amount registrations they hold.
>>>> >> Domains may also be revoked by the .RUS administration if the
>OpenNIC
>>>> >> membership at large moves to revoke a registration. We do not
>foresee
>>>> >> a circumstance where OpenNIC as a whole will be required to vote
>on
>>>> >> the revocation of a .RUS domain, but if the need arises we will
>>>> >comply
>>>> >> with any such vote.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Disputes*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Since commercial interests can be involved, trademarks will be
>>>> >> honoured.  As a general rule, a domain may only be disputed by
>the
>>>> >> holder of a trademark registered before the domain in question
>was
>>>> >> registered. Trademark holders should speak to .RUS
>administration if
>>>> >> they wish to dispute a domain. We can revoke or transfer
>>>> >registrations
>>>> >> if ordered by a legitimate court of law, as a courtesy to that
>>>> >> country, as applicable to OpenNIC’s dispute policy.
>>>> >> The domain holder will be contacted and given a chance to
>respond. In
>>>> >> the event the domain holder does not make an initial response
>within
>>>> >> 14 days, the domain may be released or, if in the opinion of the
>.rus
>>>> >> TLD team the dispute is not clear-cut, the matter will be
>referred to
>>>> >> a vote by the Opennic membership.
>>>> >> The dispute policy is intended to be a democratic balance
>between the
>>>> >> needs of a commercial registrant and the rights of a domain
>holder.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Amendments and Misc. Policies*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Amendments to this charter may be added by a vote of .RUS domain
>>>> >> holders. Additionally, the .RUS administration is permitted to
>>>> >provide
>>>> >> a binding user agreement for registrations at tld.rus that may
>>>> >include
>>>> >> policies outside the scope of this charter.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Anonymity*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> In recognition of the special nature of the community and
>demographic
>>>> >> this organization is chartering a domain for, this organization
>will
>>>> >> allow all individuals to register and vote without proof of
>identity
>>>> >> or a real name. The sole criteria for to be considered a voting
>>>> >member
>>>> >> of the organization will be an email address with one or more
>>>> >> registered, non-revoked domains, belonging to a singular person.
>>>> >> Should blatant abuse of said anonymity be discovered, the
>evidence of
>>>> >> this activity may be used to propose the expulsion of the
>offender or
>>>> >> offenders. The individual or individuals accused of said abuse
>will
>>>> >> not be eligible voters on this proposal. Should such a proposal
>pass,
>>>> >> the domains of all offending individuals will be revoked and
>become
>>>> >> available for registration, and the individuals will be
>ineligible to
>>>> >> vote on further proposals. The offenders may not have their
>>>> >> eligibility to vote or register a domain reinstated. Abuse
>includes
>>>> >> “sock-puppeting”, Sybil attacks, and other similar methods of
>social
>>>> >> subversion.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Whois service*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> .RUS provide whois service. Personal information is limited and
>not
>>>> >> printed by default. You can change this in your profile section
>in
>>>> >the
>>>> >> domain register system avail at http://register.rus/
>>>> >>
>>>> >> *Amendment*
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Provided the proposal in question does not bring this document
>in
>>>> >> conflict with OpenNIC Policy, this document may be edited or
>amended
>>>> >> by a proposal should the proposal to do so pass.
>>>> >> This document can be supplemented and up-to-date version will be
>>>> >> always available on http://www.rus/ page.
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Moscow, Russia
>>>> >> phone: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 6003]
>>>> >> fax: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 7777]
>>>> >> www: http://www.mega-net.ru
>>>> >> mail: dnikolaev AT mega-net.ru
>>>> >> SIP URI: dnikolaev AT sip.mega-net.ru || dn AT sip.mega-net.ru
>>>> >> On 18.09.2017 10:13, Dmitry S. Nikolaev wrote:
>>>> >>> No reasons ofc.
>>>> >>> I just dont understand what you asked for.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Now I`am understand that you are talking about one of the
>options of
>>>> >the
>>>> >>> "Proposing and Creating new TLDs through OpenNIC" - charter.
>>>> >>> And as I said in the  previous letter I`am sorry for my
>>>> >misunderstanding
>>>> >>> because was focused on tech things to be done.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> With best regards, Dmitry S. Nikolaev
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Moscow, Russia
>>>> >>> phone: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 6003]
>>>> >>> fax: +7 (499) 678 8007 [ext. 7777]
>>>> >>> www: http://www.mega-net.ru
>>>> >>> mail: dnikolaev AT mega-net.ru
>>>> >>> SIP URI: dnikolaev AT sip.mega-net.ru || dn AT sip.mega-net.ru
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> On 18.09.2017 07:01, vv AT cgs.pw wrote:
>>>> >>>> Is there some reason you don't want to make
>>>> >>>> this convenient?
>>>> >>>>
>>>> >>>> Cheers,
>>>> >>>>        Ole
>>>> >>>
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